Before I unveil the title of Lost’s fourth episode, let’s do a quick recap of the first three…
6.01/6.02: “LA X”
6.03: “What Kate Does”
And now, the title of 6.04 (rumored to be Locke-centric) is…
“The Substitute”
What does it mean?! Let’s ask Doc Jensen:
“Well, a substitute is a replacement for something or someone that should be there, but isn’t. Apply that to the Lost story, which left us with a burning question: Did the castaways’ actions in the past — and specifically, Juliet’s detonation of the H-bomb Jughead — change all of Lost history? Maybe season 6 will reveal that the answer is… ‘Kinda.’ Perhaps the history remains largely intact, but with some notable deviations. Perhaps ‘The Substitute,’ then, refers to someone playing the part or fulfilling the role of someone or something that is now missing from the new, rebooted timeline. For example: Walt. Maybe in the new timeline, the castaways still all get on Oceanic 815 and crash on The Island… but among the deviations will be another ’special kid’ with a problematic relationship with his or her parent, taking the place of Walt. Hence, he or she would be the substitute for Walt. But I am also reminded of the intrigue around John Locke at the end of the season. Ben had killed him, and some Island entity took his place in the Island drama, using Locke’s role as a Trojan horse to get close to Jacob. If this ‘entity’ = Locke’s ’substitute,’ maybe episode 4 will reveal more about this shape-shifter.”
Thanks, Doc! My thoughts exactly!
FYI: If it holds up that this season’s third and fourth episodes are Kate and Locke-focused respectively, doesn’t that follow the same sequence as the first season? Just something to think about.
Speaking of Lost, have you had a chance to watch my interview with Terry O’Quinn at Sunday’s Emmys? No? You’re in luck — it’s embedded below!
PHOTO CREDIT: Mario Perez/ABC
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2×09 was called What Kate Did, so 6×03 What Kate Does, most definitely suggests that the bomb did in fact work and the future was changed.
Absolutely.
ooo,”What Kate Did”… that was the episode Shannon was buried… maybe a return of Shannon is in store this episode? There WERE rumors of her return. Interesting.
And if you think about it…
2 * 9 = 18
6 * 3 = 18
It’s all about numbers taking over the world (yes I know 18 isn’t one of the official numbers, but work with me!)
OMG OMG OMG OMG LOST!!!!!!!!!!!
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I agree with me……OMG OMG OMG hurry LOST!!!!
Amen! I’m glad fall TV is back, but I’m aching for some Lost!
MereBelle, I wouldn’t say that suggests that the bomb did work and the future was changed, because in season 2 it was “What Kate Did” through flashbacks… the past. Now I think we’ll be moving in current view of history so it’s what she “does” but that doesn’t mean time was changed one way or another. All though the “America’s Most Wanted” clip points to a events change. I just don’t feel the title reflects that.
the interesting thing about the Americas Most Wanted Clip, and the Hurley Mr. Clucks video both from Comic Con is that they changed events from before the Crash. In the Americas Most Wanted Clip Kate did not kill her sted-dad but another man and it was not his house that she blew up but his business. In the Mr. Clucks ad Hurley says that he has had nothing but good luck since he won the lottery.
Did the jughead bomb change anything or did Jacob go back in time and change things so there was no plane crash and thus no Locke to create a “loophole”
In my opinion the title also suggests some relation to the previous episodes “The Constant” and “The Variable”. You study math much?
the variable and constant where in reference to time travel and they said no more time travel, or at i hope.
Variable, Constant, and Substitute do all refer to math equations, though. Just because there won’t be time jumping doesn’t mean there won’t be quantum whathaveyous.
@John…Not a huge math fan (hated Algebra) and had not realized until you said it, that Substitute is ALSO a math reference. My mind is turning over all kinds of storylines!! Thank you!
That is exacly what I was thinking….
Every OMG OMG OMG excitement moment I have is followed with OMG OMG OMG I can’t believe it’s the last season. I’m going to be lost without Lost.
Seriously, what are we going to do???
Maybe you’ll actually get out of your basement and see the sunshine, you pathetic antisocial degenerate.
Right back atcha, Yogurt.
Yogurt, you should follow your own advice. Lost is only on one hour every week. You don’t know K-Dogg, he could already be getting plenty of sunshine. You only know yourself. Just because you’re a pathetic antisocial degenerate you should not assume that everyone else has failed to find a healthy balance in their life.
terry o’quinn looks so handsome! i am counting down to february
well, I think my man Michael Emerson cleaned up fairly well himself!
I SERIOUSLY want his glasses
Micahel is meh. Terry looked really good, nice to see him dress formally and cleaned up. In other award shows, he just looked weird, but now, he looked very yummy…
LOST..January 2010 can’t get here soon enough!! Every time I get on a plane, I worry it’s going to crash and I’ll die not knowing how the show ends. What a horrible way to go!!
HAHA!!! I feel the same way.
OMG… I never thought of it that way… now every time I’m on a plane until the complete end of Lost I will have those same thoughts… Thanks.
I used to feel that way waiting for the Harry Potter books. I was so worried that JK Rowling would get hit by a bus or something and we would never know the end.
I am SO excited for January but sad that we are coming to the end.
Oh Gawd, Lost! I’m getting palpitations already….
“LA X” – that was where Flight 815 was supposed to end up if the plane hadn’t crashed, so I’ll give that a big hmmmmm….
And I can’t wait to see if Locke gets another chance at life.
Whose eye opens at the beginning of Season 6? I’m betting it’s Juliet.
Ajira also departed from LAX so it could be about the second flight instead.
I think all the people assuming that “LA X” means that the plane will now arrive in LA and there will be an alternate timeline, are a little crazy. I would be very disappointed if S6 is off island. Some of the scenes on island are the most beautiful pn TV. I took it to mean more like LA X’d out. But love the idea that Ajira left LAX w/ the O6, which could have completed the circuit, since 815 left Sydney on the way to LA. Hey, isn’t the X the symbol for that theory that 1=6, 2=5, etc. That would certainly be completing a circuit!!
John Locke is GOD!!!
Not to be negative, but I was thinking John Locke was satan and Jacob was God. Interesting.
I love how Terry O’Quinn wore a tie that matched his wife’s dress. It’s so sweet!
His wife is a house!
She’s probably no bigger than the average American which is a size 12-14. It’s an unflattering angle, as well. I saw pics of her from the same night where she looked more svelte. That said why be mean.
Monster, Quinn’s wife was beautiful, she is obviously well endowed, did you ever get to see her waist, etc? No. At a guess she is a size 16 on top and likely less on the bottom. The avg American woman is a 14, so calling her a “house” is absurd.
monster (right name?)Nothing good to say then “shut up”…she looks cool…Well I have NOTHING nice to say about you so I’ll shut up.
I do think many of the well-endowed gals who wear the strapless dresses wear them a bit low and they aren’t as flattering as they would be cut a bit higher on the chest.
They looked really cute. Like a prom date! Her dress was really pretty!!
I think she looked really pretty. They look like a happy attractive couple. That said I hate it when people say the average American woman is size… I’m sorry but Americans are big. It’s not something to be proud of and people need to change.
Amen, sister! If America keeps going the way it is, in a few years the average American woman is going to be size 20. That doesn’t make it right(or healthy) just because you’re the average.
She still looked like a pig.
@Monster…Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. Of course, I can’t see you but I am quite sure you are a male chauvenist PIG and likely a Frankenstien MONSTER.
Sorry it’s Frankenstein. I prefer to spell my rude counter comments correctly!!
Four more months to the last season of the show…can’t wait!
I think “The Substitute” refers to Locke’s new role as the “substitute” for the Man in Black. I bet we’ll learn how the Man in Black managed to inhabit Locke’s body and find the “loophole.”
I agree with you buckeye. Also, Ausiello is right, the producers often said that season 6 will mirror season 1 which means, to look out for character centric shows on everyone even characters that are supposed to be dead.
It’s gotta be the shoes!!!!!
I don’t know, buckeye, but I think it’s not the first time this loophole played out. Locke’s “re-birth” is less like that of Christian Shephard, whose body disappeared, than that of another castaway relative, Yemi, Eko’s brother. I know the chances of them bringing Eko back are about as good as them explaining how Libby wound up at Santa Rosa, but it’s an interesting connection, anyway.
@LauraK. Heard a rumor that the actor that plays Eko has signed a contract to return to S6. Can’t imagine what implications that has to story, but I loved Eko’s strong calm.
Who is the substitute?
I think that Lapidus is a good “candidate.”
Monster, you are an a**!!! His wife is beautiful!!! I can’t wait for Lost!!!
OMG I kind of want to barf I’m so excited for LOST LOL i’m THAT big a nerd
Can’t even stand it!!! I’m hoping the ’substitute’ is someone for Locke, I want him to be alive (the REAL John) he’s kicka$$ i love Locke! What Kate does…meh, who cares, just stay away from jack you trainwreck! hehehe
In some sense, of course, the real substitute in Ben, not Locke. There’s definitely a suggestion that Ben was brought to the Island after Locke failed his first test, as sort of a second choice leader and protector. The essential conflict between Ben and Locke is that Ben has been there all this time and wants to believe that the Island is his, even though he is really just a placeholder for Locke. Should be a great episode, regardless–Locke episodes always are.
Really? You rlly don’t remember further instructions? Just sayin that episode was just off
I think it’s a typo: Not “The Substitute”, it’s “The Prostitute” and refers to Locke selling his soul just to be someone special.
LA X will probably be a jack or multi centric. What Kate does is obviously Kate. Substitute will be Locke and the next will be a sun and Jin centric. “house of the rising Jin, kingdom of the descending Jin or the kingdom of the descending sun or moon” r all possibilties lol. But the substitute will hav smthn to do with mib.
I’m with you guys, I can hardly wait for LOST season six…and all that keeps going through my mind about last season’s finale is that Locke’s body was literally lying “in the shadow of the statue”, and that Jacob was pushed into fire, and fire gives off
Smoke(y)….may be too obvious, but I’m excited to see what the genius writers at LOST have in store for us…
Just thinkon. What Kate does probably refers to Kate second try at her dad. At comic con remember Kate killed the wrong person her fathers apprenice so mayb Kate will try to kill him again or mayb she will make the choice not to…
Lost “lost” me years ago. To many unanswered questions. Answer one & 10 more pop up. I hope everyone is preparing themselves for the biggest letdown in TV history.
I’m fully prepared for many questions to remain unresolved. However, I am fully confident that the conclusion the writers come up with will give us a satisfying ending and plenty of closure . . . and just enough lingering threads to keep our little minds spinning forever and ever.
Many of us like the show precisely because of that. Maybe “Two And A Half Men” is more your speed. The only unanswered questions it raises is: Why is this show STILL on? and Who watches this?
Love you both John and Ed Bob. It’s the “my mind doesn’t understand stuff outside these four corners” that just HAVE to vent the angry crap! If we ignore them, maybe they will go away!!
*yawn* I wish they had started this final season in September so we would be mercifully rid of it sooner. I loathe what I used to love, but praying for a mercy killing was too much to ask.
I’ll never understand with all of the hundreds and hundreds of shows on tv these days, why people waste their energy commenting on a show that they don’t like…your opinion is what it is, but come on do you really think you are going to change opinions of those who love LOST..or even more, that we would even care?
I loathed last season too, I loved seasons 1-4. I’m watching them again on bluray but FF through the flashbacks, who cares anymore. I’m with Calyce. I still want to love the show, but last season was weak. I just hope they can save it and that season 6 will not be just some sci-fi channel reject.
Season 5 was weak? Really? Season 3 was weak and Season 4 was rushed thanks to the strike, but Season 5 was epic. Maybe one must utilize more than 10% percent of his or her brain to comprehend a show with an actual plot. I for one am dreading the day Lost goes off the air and ceases to intrigue, frustrate and entertain me more than any other show I have ever watched.
Calyce if you loathe it then why do you care when it returns or if it does. But there is a easy way to “rid” yourself of LOST and thats by not watching.
I don’t understand why these people who claim to hate the show so much bother wasting their time reading a thread about it. Hmmmmm. I agree with the above comment…it is human nature to try and condemn that which we are unable to understand. Lost is indeed one of the most intelligent shows to ever hit the airwaves. And therein lies the problem. One has to possess a certain level of intelligence to fully appreciate it.
I agree with the above comment by BOBS, not Dustin…
Okay…1.04 explained how Locke got into the wheelchair…sooo 6.04 may explain how the man in black became Locke? I don’t know…I don’t care. I can’t wait!!!
Anyone wanna hear my theory about ‘Adam and Eve’? Well, you’re gonna, anyway!
Ok, I know lots of people think they’re Rose and Bernard but I propose ‘Faux’ Locke as seen in 1st scene of last ep from last season and Jacob.
Remember ‘Faux’ Locke guy was wearing black and Jacob white. And a bag containing a black stone and a white stone was found on Adam and Eve.
Suppose it’s kind of like that ‘Neither shall live while the other survives’ prophecy that didn’t exactly pan out in Harry Potter.
Or, maybe I just need LOST to come back – NOW!
But when Jack looked at the skeletons way back in Season 1… he said one was male, one was female. Hence, Adam and Eve. Jacob and the loophole guy, both male. Not to be so literal with the black and white stones… but Rose and Bernard… Just sayin.
well, even doctors can make a mistake!
I don’t care… I just like my idea!
Male and female skeletons in the cave were most likely the DeGroots, the people that were part of the original founders of the Dharma Initiative, thats always been my theory.
I hated season 5 and looks like I’m going to hate at least the first part of season 6. All this time-travel changing the past is crap. The show has fallen so far, please save it.
How could you hate season 5?? I loved loved loved it. What I want to know is, does anyone know if we’ll see more Daniel Faraday???
Yes, TPTB have confirmed we’ll see more Faraday.
What if “the substitute” was the island entity, maybe Locke was the substitute body for the Man in Black? The substitute could explain how Locke 2.0 came to be.
I’m so excited for a LOST scoop! I caught the thing about the “What Kate Does” and “What Kate Did” very interesting. I so cant wait for this season to start!
LOST gets better every season, I just started watching it at the start of season 5, and have now seen every episode. People who say it sucks must not be paying that close attention to the details of the show -because its well done and the best show on TV right now.